Posts by Pete Zahut

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Approximately how many JW have left permanently?

by longgone in

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friends

i did try a search before posting this question and found nothing current.

pew research -2016 says approximately two thirds of those born into the religion in the united states alone, no longer consider themselves as members.

(sorry, still don't know how to link, but it's an easy google search.).

Pete Zahut

I don't have any data to base this on, or hard numbers to show you, but if you think about all the DF'd, DA'd or faded JW's you've personally known or have been related to, and if you assume that this is also the case for the 8 million current in JW's ; that's a whole lot of people whose lives have been adversely effected by having been involved with the Watchtower organization.

If each one of the current 8 million JW's knows or is related to only 3 DF'd, DA'd or Faded individuals, that's 24 million people. When you think how many people over the decades who have come and gone from this religion and how their lives and family lineages were forever altered, it's astonishing.

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Jehovahs witnesses that believe its "The Truth" vs JW's who know it isn't

by Christian Gutierrez in

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friends

hey guys!

what do you think is the percentage of jw's believe that it is the truth and the percentage of those who think it might be some false or all false??

?.

Pete Zahut

Hello Christian...hope you and the Mrs. are doing well.

I think there are three different groups that JW's fall into.

Those who are totally on board with the program.
Those who believe they should be totally on board with the program but aren't quite there anymore.
Those who have to stay put for now or are staying put, just because they don't know what to do or don't have any other choice or don't want to be bothered making a change to their comfortable rut.

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Irma Message

by wifibandit in

greetings brothers,.

the branch committee has prepared an encouraging video meant to encourage and reassure those affected by the recent storm.

please note that this link or any images from the video are not to be posted to the internet or any social media.. irma message - english.

Pete Zahut

We have been EARNESTLY SUPPLICATING JEHOVAH in your behalf.

Three questions:

Why would they need to "supplicate Jehovah" in behalf of someone else, isn't he aware of what's going on with his people or does he have to receive a certain amount of "supplications" or "supplications" from noteworthy individuals such as the GB memebers, before he will do anything to help ?

What other kind of "supplication" is there other than one that is earnest...are their times when their "supplications" are insincere?

Why would he do anything, since his (supposed) intent was that the earth be cursed and life on it be made difficult so that human kind would suffer and pay for the sins of Adam and Eve?

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Human Origins

by cofty in

fantastic graphic produced by the smithsonian institute illustrating human origins.

click on any of the group or species labels for more detailed information.. meet your ancestors here....

Pete Zahut

Interesting stuff... but this reminds me of this old guy I know who doesn't like his in-laws very much and jokes that when his wife looked up her family tree, she found that most of her relatives were still living in it.

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How do the foreign language Congregations find people to call on?

by UnshackleTheChains in

ok. i had a fascinating conversation with one of my polish colleagues at work.

she knows i'm a jdub and an activist as have filled her in warts and all about watchtower.. she came up to me today explaining how a couple of polish witnesses came to her door.

she was curious as to how they knew to call on her door knowing she was polish.

Pete Zahut

Yes what wasanelder said. They fill out a little slip with the address and nationality and it gets passed on to the relevant congregation service overseer who gives the info to some witness to call on that person. All very creepy and stalker-ish.

In this case, it might have been the diving board on the septic tank that tipped them off.

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Oh The Irony

by FedUpJW in

so i sat and suffered through the clam tonight.. everything was pretty much as dull, repetitious, and simple-minded as i have come to expect, but i was really struck by the mind-numbing idiotic comments made during the part about shunning family.. then came the book study (no real bible use) loaded with self-congratulatory b.s about how wt never has, and never will beg, solicit, or ask for money.

i could feel myself beginning to channel the old tasmanian devil cartoon character as i listened to that garbage while remembering the jdubya tv shows about how more money was going out than coming in and give more.

but finally came the most ironic (to me) part of the entire meeting and i could not help bursting out in a loud belly laugh that got me many dirty looks and heavy frowns.

Pete Zahut

The fact that they had this particular letter read at that particular meeting, indicates that they didn't even know what the lesson in the "book study" would be covering that night. It seems that once again, even though they're being guided by the "holy spirit" the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

I also though it was odd that they asked for $14.00. That amount seems rather specific and it makes me think they wanted it to seem like they were asking for money to cover an exact deficit, nothing less nothing more.

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What would be most likely...

by The freewheeling in

what statement to the elders would get you disfelloshipped fastest?

saying.... a) that you don't believe in god anymore.

or saying ... b) that you don't believe that the governing body is god's canal and mouthpiece anymore.. what opinion is most serious in there eyes?

Pete Zahut

It's one thing not to believe in God anymore but it's quite another thing if you say you don't believe the GB are who they say they are. Someone who doesn't believe in God is simply an unbeliever and is to be pitied, but someone who doesn't believe in the Governing Body, would be considered an object of fear and would be considered "worse than an unbeliever" even though that term was applied in the bible at 1 Timothy 5:8 to a completely different circumstance.

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1975 and My First Art Job (A weird memory)

by TerryWalstrom in

my first art job 1975 (a weird memory).

______ as a jw who woke up, i knew i had to leave texas and take my family with me or i'd be stuck in janitor jobs the rest of my natural life.

we drove in 1974 from texas to los angeles and my purpose was to get employment as an artist.

Pete Zahut

Today, looking back through time, I'm struck by the number of cultists under one roof!
Weird memory. That's why I shared it with you.

Perhaps creative and artistic people tend to be a little bit "out there" and maybe they are more open to religious ideas that stretch the imagination .

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Watchtower Films

by vienne in

probably everyone here knows something about the photo drama of creation.

but i wonder how many know anything about other early watch tower films.. https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

if anyone knows where we can find the cedar point films, please let me know.

Pete Zahut

They used to show this Watchtower film at the Sunday meeting at least once a year during the 60's and 70's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIu0tm_DyM

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What would Watchtower be like now with out the 1975 fiasco.

by joe134cd in

no doubt this has been discussed before, but if the 1975 event had never happened where would watchtower be now.

comments please..

Pete Zahut

Their credibility would be in better shape and their faces wouldn't be as red.